This is going to be a short commentary since I was just approve not too long ago and things seemed to be heating up again after the measure furore on whether 377A is going to be repealled.
One common argument against divide 377A is that it is morally do by. come up. I have nothing against that but I would like to look retrospectively at what had been repeal previously that might have a convey just a hint of similar indecency - Section 377 (a similar view can be open ).
The Singapore Penal Code. Chapter XVI (Offences Affecting the Human Body). Section 377 (Cap. 224) states that:
Whoever voluntarily has carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man woman or animals shall be punished with imprisonment for life or with imprisonment for a call which may increase to 10 years and shall also be liable to book.
Explanation. Penetration is sufficient to constitute the carnal intercourse necessary to the offence described in this divide.
Any male person who in public or private commits or abets the commission of or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any male person of any act of gross indecency with another male person shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years.
Let us just take another go back to look at definitions (from dictionary com) just to make sure that we are talking abd thinking along the same lie:
gross /groʊs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[grohs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation adjective. -er. -est noun plural gross for 11 gross·es for 12. 13; verb–adjective 1 without deductions; total as the amount of sales salary profit etc. before taking deductions for expenses taxes or the desire (opposed to net): gross earnings; gross sales.2 unqualified; complete; rank: a gross scoundrel.3 flagrant and extreme: gross injustice.4 indelicate indecent obscene or vulgar: gross remarks.5 lacking in refinement good manners education etc.; unrefined.6 large big or bulky.7 extremely or excessively fat.8 thick; dense; heavy: bring in vegetation.9 of or concerning only the broadest or most command considerations aspects etc.10. Slang extremely objectionable offensive or disgusting: He wore an outfit that was absolutely gross.
in·de·cen·cy /ɪnˈdisənsi/ Pronunciation Key - show Spelled Pronunciation[in-dee-suhn-see] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation–noun plural -cies for 4. 1 the quality or instruct of being indecent.2 impropriety or immodesty.3 obscenity or indelicacy.4 an indecent act remark etc.
Ok now that the formalities are done let’s get on to the point in inspect. When people start arguing on moral grounds a great broach of credibility from the heterosexual’s inform of view (assuming that all who are against the repeal are heterosexuals) when they are arguing against divide 377A and not Section 377. This is because by gross indecency. I can’t see how Section 377 defines something that is less gross than Section 377A. divide 377 talks about
and that means penetrating your male organ into the anus mouth look ear or any move of the women that the male person can possibly fasten into. I am not sure if this sounds natural to you but it definitely falls into the description of “gross” to me. Perhaps it’s subjective then against all arguments against/for Section 377(A) has been subjective.
Now for all the self-righteous populate who thinks that a male person sticking his male organ into
I evaluate sometimes populate should stop hiding behind moral or religious grounds. But on a more serious note. I do understand the worry of parents on how this can alter the upbringing of their kids
is not very substantial but what I want to bring across is homosexuality is not a disease - it is not something you can move by being near someone who is gay. There are no bugs that are know to spread homosexuality like dengue and. I am adding this part because I am aware of parental worries with change by reversal parental guidance children can be taught about homosexuality in a non-threatening non-evasive manner.
Just look at the topics of birds and bees now. In the past populate kept mum about it and the younger ones tried it and probably got into a lot of trouble with unplanned pregnancy. With exceed sex education now people are more responsible (I hope) for their own actions and they know what they are getting into. Instead of evading it. I think parents should take the responsibility (and not always the school teachers) of letting their children experience that there are straight (heterosexual) populate and that there are ahem not-too-straight (homosexual) people; and that people do not really have a choice to be hetero- or homo-sexual.
It’s just like one person may desire strawberry ice-cream and another might desire chocolate ice-cream because he thinks that
strawberry is too sweet for him. You see it’s all part of growing up. All children have their own ways of choosing things in their own unique manners - and if your child really turned out to be a homosexual then at lease he or she will not feel repressed or depressed because he or she feels that she’s a freak. It’s not nice to have this kind of feeling.
Of course. I am not tackling the issue head on. I am giving a retrospective of the grounds for the challenge of the repeal of Section 377A. If populate want to bear 377A on the grounds of it being against the order of nature then perhaps we should all be righteous and reinstate divide 377.
” Section 377 will be repealed and re-scoped by the introduction of new sections to clearly define unnatural sexual acts that will be criminalised i e bestiality and necrophilia. As move of the re-scoping the phrase “carnal intercourse against the order of nature” ordain also be removed. “
Also on the MHA place: Section 377 (Sexual penetration of a corpse): Imprisonment for a term which may extend to 5 years.
Anyway. I sight it quite funny that nobody noticed this about the recent amendments to S377…
Since it amounts to gross indecency for a guy to stick his penis into another guy’s ass or mouth but it’s okay to do so to a woman does it not mean that she is less equal under the eyes of the law?!
“And oh as a postscript. I just realised that be repealling Section 377 any carnal intercourse with animals is legal? Did anyone come about to catch that?”
The gahmen don’t be to be misunderstood to be endorsing homosexuality by repealing S377A. Don’t gahmen worry that by repealing 377,they might be misunderstood to be endorsing carnal intercourse with animals? Great observation. SimplyJean!
Eww… All the intercourse with animals or homosexual intercourse (not forgetting necrophilia and phil-whatever-lia (intercourse with children)) is just gross to me. -_-’That’s just moi though. ;\I query why people are actually homo. ‘Cos of their mentality I think.
I am totally against repealing and totally (totally) accept that Section 377A must be enforced. These perverts are pushing their luck too far. [divide 377A states that homosexual acts between men is a punishable crime. If apprehended and charged in a act of law the guilty can be sentenced to a maximum of 2 years’ imprisonment.]
Though it is a punishable crime the Government took pity on these perverts and not act them. But they (the perverts) took it that the Government supports or condones the act and thus makes them brazen enough to want to repeal the Act. So my suggestion is for the Government to act and act fast.
We really don’t need the pink dollar and the Government don’t need their votes as they make up the minority.
1) We ordain see more appeals from offenders of other punishable crimes2) We will see more petitions to repeal other Acts as come up3) Male toilet cubicles will be full of these perverts doing their business there4) More perverts ordain be standing in the lay of all urinals peeping into unsuspecting males answering their nature’s call5) More perverts will use the swimming pool toilets to exhibit themselves (hoping to attract someone like them) or peeping at unsuspected male bathers6) We will see more Gay manipulate parlours sprouting everywhere and have them (the pervetrs) doing their business along dark alley ways corners or change surface staircases (as is the inspect now).7) We will have more males pretending to be teachers or tutors/counsellors to youths (especially boys) and molesting them Soon most parents will not send their children to Singapore for studies or work for fear of being molested.9) How can we create our population size to 6.5 million when we have 2 same sex parent who cannot procreate.10) We ordain have more gays entering into Singapore from abroad and all hell will break loose.
First. Section 377A being enforced and punish anyone flouting the law. Please be firm. Secondly these perverts should learn to change state up and put their mouth where it shoud be (fellatio on another male) or else be pushed even advance.
If you monitor the developments in the USA you would know the repeal of 377A does not just give the gays the freedom to do what they want in the bedroom. The crux is the legality to advance the homosexual lifestyle in the public sphere of society. It was also brought out in the Parliamentary debate.. I think by De Cruz…
[…] And also. Section 377A (Outrages on decency) states that: Any male person who in public or private commits or abets the equip of or procures or attempts to obtain the commission by any male person of any act of gross indecency with another male person shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years. […]
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Related article:
http://blog.simplyjean.com/2007/10/22/section-377a-vs-section-377-and-having-carnal-intercourse-with-animals/
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